Sat. Dec 10th, 2022

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: At the moment is Friday, November eleventh. Good morning! That is The World and Every thing in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myrna Brown.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher. Subsequent up…The Grey Havens. You
may be accustomed to the fictional harbor on the coast of J.R.R.
Tolkien’s Center Earth. However these Grey Havens are landlocked, smack in
the middle of the U.S. Nashville, to be exact.

BROWN: The Grey Havens is a musical group. A husband-wife duo who
take a lot of their inspiration from writers like Tolkien and C.S. Lewis.
Additionally they current theological truths packaged in story type. WORLD’s
Anna Johansen Brown says that’s what units the group aside, offering
wealthy supply materials for one album after one other.

AMERICAN IDOL – RADFORD SINGING: Oh the Autumn wind and the Winter wind, they’ve come and gone…

ANNA JOHANSEN BROWN, REPORTER: Again in highschool, Dave
Radford was a crooner. At age 17, he broke into the highest 24 on American
Idol, season 5.

Audition: Sammy Davis Jr., Dean Martin, all that rat pack age, that’s completely who I’m.

AMERICAN IDOL – RADFORD: My fickle pal the Summer time wind.

However then Radford began writing his personal music. A unique set of musicians knowledgeable his songwriting.

RADFORD: And all my favourite singer songwriters had been storytellers like Paul Simon and Cat Stevens and James Taylor.

And a particular set of authors knowledgeable his lyrics. Writers
like J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis, and the way in which they wrote theology into
tales.

Quickly, Radford wasn’t crooning anymore.

CLIP: JACK AND JILL PART 2

RADFORD: We name the music narrative pop folks.

Narrative pop folks isn’t something like modern
Christian worship music. You received’t hear it on a radio station like
Ok-Love: A catchy pop beat, often with stringed folks devices, however
paired with allegorical, storytelling lyrics.

In 2012, Radford married his spouse Licia. In 2015, the duo
recorded their first full album, “Hearth and Stone.” It’s an eclectic combine
of folksy songs, wealthy with allure and allegory.

JACK AND JILL PART 2: We had been feeling new, we had been feeling new…

“Jack and Jill Half 2” tells the story of Jack who falls
down a hill, hits his head, and goes to a different kingdom…the place he meets
different nursery rhyme characters, all tipping their hats to Biblical
double-meanings. Like Mary who had a lamb and he was white as snow.

JACK AND JILL PART 2: He cried,
no I saved my gown and my ring for you. Sure, I will throw you a feast as
quickly because the cow will get again from the moon…

A lot of the songs on the primary album had been from Radford’s
school days, written right here and there over years. However because the duo began
waiting for extra albums, Radford began working into an issue.
The music got here simply. The lyrics, not a lot.

RADFORD: There’s nothing extra, I
do not know discouraging in to me in music, then sitting alone at a piano
with a chord development that you simply like and the melody that you simply like,
and no thought tips on how to say the factor that you simply need to say.

He calls it taking part in matchmaker. Right here he’s in The Grey Havens Podcast, explaining his course of.

GRAY HAVENS PODCAST – RHYTHM OF THE
EAST: I’ll give you all these completely different lyrical concepts or phrases
and I’ll carry it to the music and kinda say, eh? Like is that this what you
need?

The distinctiveness of Radford’s new model was each a blessing
and a curse. Discovering an viewers was robust. The Grey Havens used a
grassroots strategy, doing dwelling concert events and Kickstarter funding. When
they landed a collaboration with a extra well-known hip-hop artist,
issues began to take off.

HIGH ENOUGH: Freeze the second in time…

In later albums, the duo settled on a extra cohesive musical
model. Their music grew to become much less acoustic, extra polished and blended. And
the lyrics, chock filled with Inklings affect, grew to become extra
subtle.

Typically, the songs is usually a little too hazy, with fewer
stable melody strains to hum together with. However the lyrics proceed to supply
profound truths wrapped in narrative, typically allegorical type.

The Grey Havens’ most up-to-date album is named Blue Flower.
Radford says it’s a riff on C.S. Lewis’ autobiography “Stunned By
Pleasure.”

RADFORD: And that guide is principally
Lewis’s life story as informed by means of the lens of this one recurring
expertise that he calls pleasure. And he defines as an unhappy need,
extra fascinating than any satisfaction.

At one level, Lewis makes use of an emblem to characterize that
longing: The Blue Flower. It’s an emblem from German Romantic literature
meant to characterize that wistful, bittersweet eager for a factor we
don’t absolutely comprehend. For Lewis, it hit him typically when he was out in
nature taking a look at a panorama or a tiny backyard in a tin.

THE BLUE FLOWER: Noticed you blue flower and who’s to say the place you come from…

RADFORD: And the continuous query that he retains asking, is, does this sense or expertise have a supply?

His conclusion?

RADFORD: Lewis would say that it primarily serves as a signpost to who God is and the New Jerusalem forward.

THE BLUE FLOWER: Felt you blue flower in my soul

You bought me longin’ for somethin’ extra,

Now I would like somethin’ extra.

On the finish of his autobiography, Lewis writes that the bittersweet longing has misplaced a lot of its fascination for him.

RADFORD: As a result of he is aware of the place it
comes from now. As soon as he believed within the place itself, the indicators on the
aspect of the street felt much less vital than the vacation spot itself.

Proper now, Radford is in the course of writing a brand new album.
This time, a collaborative challenge. He hopes that having different
musicians concerned will spark new concepts and preserve the lyrics flowing.

RADFORD: So it would simply that I
get bored simply and after I at all times strive new stuff, however we’re at all times
attempting to serve the tune and ask ourselves what’s the tune should be
extra like itself? And that is at all times thrilling to me.

THE BLUE FLOWER: If solely I might lastly attain you,

The backyard’s the place you develop….

For WORLD, I’m Anna Johansen Brown.


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